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From: Jeff Mueller  5/26/2006 9:37 am 
To: ALL  (18 of 41) 
 15361.18 in reply to 15361.1 

I also got a threat for NetEnforcers. I didn't even know my site was removed from the www by my host until I checked my stats and saw no sales and a fraction of hits that I should have had. I went to my site and saw the same thing several thousand other people did, "Account Suspended."

I think I might qualify for the class action suit :)

This is rediculous though. How can they not know about Amazon's Associate program when this is supposed to be their job. Sony's even worse for it.

 
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From: mikelepore  5/26/2006 2:55 pm 
To: Jeff Mueller unread  (19 of 41) 
 15361.19 in reply to 15361.18 
Then it's time to organize a committee. It can draft the text of a petition that thousands of people can send to the corporations supposedly represented by these pests. The committee can notify hosting companies that they can expect to be receiving frivolous claims, so that they may not automatically assume that the site owner is guilty. The committee can place notices in webmaster newsgroups and forums, to find more victims who will join up. The committee can probably find a lawyer who will work for free, expecting to get paid out of an award of damages.
 
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From: Troll Smasher  5/26/2006 3:54 pm 
To: ALL  (20 of 41) 
 15361.20 in reply to 15361.19 

The leader of such a committee should probably be me. I'm a master of intimidating these would-be intimidators and exposing their creamy center.

That being said, if they ever dared to write me such an intimidating email, I would be compelled to turn it around on them (approx. 99.99% probability of success) and procede to make them pay dearly for even trying it (approx. 99.99% probability of success).


Edited 5/27/2006 4:17 am ET by Troll Smasher
 
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From: mikelepore  5/26/2006 4:22 pm 
To: ALL  (21 of 41) 
 15361.21 in reply to 15361.20 

I posted an announcement in the forum at hosting company where I rent my disk space. Perhaps hosting companies will be less likely to suspend accounts if they have prior warning about this harassment. If anyone would like to do something similar, feel free to adapt my message for your own use.

http://forums.dathorn.com/showthread.php?p=12976#post12976 

 

 
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From: Troll Smasher  5/26/2006 6:20 pm 
To: ALL  (22 of 41) 
 15361.22 in reply to 15361.21 

Has anyone had their account suspended?

Has anyone received any word from their host about a possible violation of terms?

OK then... It's an empty threat. They never mention that the source of the material in violation is Amazon.com, although they absolutely must know Amazon's API is the source. That's because their game, whatever it is, would be over at that point.

Don't be so easy.

Reply to their email "Do your worst, opportunistic parasite." and carry on, business as usual.


Edited 5/27/2006 2:42 am ET by Troll Smasher
 
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From: mikelepore  5/26/2006 9:36 pm 
To: Troll Smasher  (23 of 41) 
 15361.23 in reply to 15361.22 

Yes, some hosting companies have already suspended accounts because of this. Yes, it's an empty threat by Net Enforcers. Most hosting companies will suspend accounts right away in response to empty threats.

In court, innocent until proven guilty. In business, guilty until proven innocent.

 
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From: Troll Smasher  5/26/2006 11:56 pm 
To: mikelepore  (24 of 41) 
 15361.24 in reply to 15361.23 

Well, you've forced me to actually investigate it a little:

Their partners are marketplace software developers whom directly compete with Amazon for new marketplace-based businesses. Their strategy may be to undermine Amazon's marketplace and push marketplace-based businesses over to eBay.

And so, apparently, netenforcer's software bot is catching marketplace vendors who aren't actually approved by the manufacturer to distribute the merchandise they're selling in Amazon's marketplace. So, again, my guess is that the target is Amazon's marketplace.

Eliminating marketplace items in your ads should solve the problem for you, the Associate. But Amazon needs to be aware that, although netforcers is coming off as being the righteous protectors of everyone's property, the enemy is actually chipping away at their underbelly.

Probability that the helpful services of the righteous netforcers is actually meant to undermine Amazon's marketplace: 99.99%

 
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From: Troll Smasher  5/27/2006 12:08 am 
To: ALL  (25 of 41) 
 15361.25 in reply to 15361.24 
See? I told you I would expose their creamy center. Ugly, isn't it?
 
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From: mikelepore  5/27/2006 1:05 am 
To: Troll Smasher  (26 of 41) 
 15361.26 in reply to 15361.24 
I didn't suspect that it had to do with just the marketplace sector, but I had a strong feeling these "enforcers" were only trying to reduce the number of their competitors in the sales business.
 
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From: Master Blaster  5/27/2006 1:11 am 
To: Associates Program  (27 of 41) 
 15361.27 in reply to 15361.15 
Now you know why Troll Smasher run Bartertown. Him destroy all pretty easy.
 
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