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From: dunbarmatt  12/15/2006 3:00 pm 
To: ALL  (1 of 21) 
 17498.1 

Dear XXX,

At the end of the year Amazon.com will be changing the pay structure that it has in place with you today to one in which we pay you referral fees only on items that we send to you (and result in a sale on our website) on a regular basis.

To incorporate these new payment changes, we have attached an amendment to the existing Associates Operating agreement that you have in place with Amazon.com today. To migrate to the new pay structure, please print out, sign, and fax the amended agreement [fax #: (206) 266-1352] by close of business on Thursday, December 28. Alternatively, if you prefer to not continue as an Amazon Associate, there is no action required on your part because our existing agreement will be terminated as of Friday, December 29. Please note that if you choose to discontinue with the Associates program, you will still be paid standard referral fees up through December 31 of 2006.

Amazon.com values our business relationship and we certainly hope that you choose to continue as a member of the Amazon Associates program. We recognize that transitioning to a new business model may have its challenges, which is why we are open to your feedback on this new payment structure moving forward.

Thank you for your time,

Amazon.com Associates team

 
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From: Eldarion  12/15/2006 3:21 pm 
To: dunbarmatt  (2 of 21) 
 17498.2 in reply to 17498.1 
Other people like Spoofee and (I assume, based on the switch to Pricegrabber links rather than Amazon links) Techbargains did last quarter. Out of curiosity, what site do you run?
 
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From: Tracy V Grant  12/15/2006 3:24 pm 
To: dunbarmatt  (3 of 21) 
 17498.3 in reply to 17498.1 

They did this last quarter to Couponers. See this thread:

http://forums.prosperotechnologies.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=am-associhelp&msg=16587.1&ctx=128

 
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From: Richard Johnson  12/15/2006 3:26 pm 
To: dunbarmatt  (4 of 21) 
 17498.4 in reply to 17498.1 
What is this all about? Can someone fill me in?
 
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From: Tracy V Grant  12/15/2006 3:35 pm 
To: Richard Johnson  (5 of 21) 
 17498.5 in reply to 17498.4 

The Associates Team explained it like this in the thread I linked to above:

The changes referenced in the posts above will only affect Associates within the Deal & Coupon category, which can be defined as a category of Web site dedicated to finding the best deals or price discounts across the Internet (and brick-n-mortar stores as well) and/or websites that provide coupons to different retail stores, online or offline. If your business is not related to the Deal & Coupon category, or you only occasionally promote deals, coupons, or discounts in the context of the topic of your Web site, you will not be affected by these changes.

-The Associates Team

 
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From: dunbarmatt  12/15/2006 3:50 pm 
To: Eldarion  (6 of 21) 
 17498.6 in reply to 17498.2 

My site is not a deal & coupon site. It is a price comparison site. Don't get mislead with the "Coupon & Deals" sites thing. This will eventually effect you if you reach certain levels of sales.

 
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From: Richard Johnson  12/15/2006 4:07 pm 
To: dunbarmatt  (7 of 21) 
 17498.7 in reply to 17498.6 
So, what is the bottom line, how much are they reducing commissions?
 
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From: Simon  12/15/2006 4:11 pm 
To: dunbarmatt  (8 of 21) 
 17498.8 in reply to 17498.1 
Does this mean that they have the right to only give you commission on items you *directly* promote? That would truly suck for me personally since a a large part of my revenue comes from "other" items people buy :-(
 
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From: dunbarmatt  12/15/2006 4:30 pm 
To: Simon  (9 of 21) 
 17498.9 in reply to 17498.8 

That is the part I am trying to understand. I think they will only allow us to promote items with no consumer promotions no discounts where it will take a hell lot of an effort to make a single sell. This is one thing. The other thing is they won't allow us to see the reports until the quarter is over meaning once every three months? It is really stupid, isn't it. Does anyone have any insight on these?

We had over $200K in commissions with Amazon last year but I really don't see this as a big deal. There is no way we will continue with Amazon under these conditions but we will replace them with somebody else and move on. Maybe the conversion won't be as good but this is life ...

Matt

 
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From: Richard Johnson  12/15/2006 4:33 pm 
To: ALL  (10 of 21) 
 17498.10 in reply to 17498.8 

You should all just drop Amazon, they need you more than you need them. I dropped Amazon two years ago, and my revenues have increased by over 1000% comparing Q4 2004 to Q4 2006 . My volume in Q4 2004 was pretty good, so the increase is substantial.

In the last few days I exmpiremented with Amazon once again, turns out they still suck, so back to my bread and butter.

Drop Amazon until they get serious about their affiliate program. In terms of e-commerce, dropping Amazon from the sites I promote was without a doubt the best thing I ever did.

 
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